Showing posts with label life. Show all posts
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Sunday, March 17, 2013

Phillips: Darwin's Worms

Phillips, Adam: Darwin's Worms; Basic Books, New York, 2000


I really enjoyed this book.  As I read it, I kept thinking that what Phillips was saying seemed so true, that what he was concluding about Freud and Darwin's contributions to our knowledge of the world we live in and our lives themselves was so insightful and made so much sense.  His discussions of the importance of their work helped fill in some of the lacunae that kept tripping me up as I would read these texts - the sense that I'm missing so much and because I'm missing it, I can't see the big picture.  Phillips' take on the state of our knowledge about the world so far, for me was invigorating and, to use a trite expression, 'life-affirming'.

In his prologue, Phillips asks
How could it be possible that we were only natural creatures, but that nature was felt to be insufficient for our needs?  Either nature must be in some (old-fashioned) sense evil, or we have misconstrued our needs.  [pg 15]
He goes on to say that Darwin and Freud showed us that nature doesn't take sides and that "there was nothing now that could promise, or underwrite, or predict, a successful life."   "Nature seemed to have laws but not intentions, or a sense of responsibility."  This reminds me of a Stephen Crane poem I used to like to think about in my teens:
A man said to the universe:
"Sir, I exist!"
"However," replied the universe,
"The fact has not created in me
  A sense of obligation."
Phillips writes that both Darwin and Freud were sceptical about the perfectibility of Man, a theory that despite having been brought up Catholic and despite an interest in Buddhism and Eastern religions, I've never really believed in, nor have I aspired to perfection.  That's not to say that I don't think that 'improvements' can't or shouldn't be attempted but that a goal of perfection is not even worthy of being aspired to.  Phillips writes that for both Darwin and Freud "we are the animals who seem to suffer, above all, from our ideals" [pg 17].  In Saturday's discussion about Frankenstein, Byron spoke about one of the versions of the Prometheus myth where Zeus kept making forms of humans but not embuing them with life because they weren't yet perfect.  Then Prometheus interfered and brought humans to life, gave us fire imperfect as we are - and by so doing, prevented us from being perfect, prevented Zeus from perfecting us.  Of course, had Zeus perfected humans, they wouldn't have been us; or we aren't them.  Phillips says that by our constant striving after knowledge, perfection, goodness etc, we are denying ourselves "the pleasure of reality" [pg 18]. I think Lawrence would have somewhat agreed with that - with his celebration of sex, nature, simplicity; and with his rejection of industrialization and class.

Phillips speaks about how
reality was a viable term for [Darwin and Freud]: that they used the word to do something.  Because, as a concept, it was a synonym for nature, it was rarely ironized by them. [pg 18]
That's a far cry from today where if you ask someone what the word 'reality' means to them, they are, sadly, most apt to talk about 'reality TV", an ironic if not oxymoronic term for 2013.  According to Phillips "If there are laws of human nature, some of them at least are of a peculiarly recondite logic." [pg 21]
The fact that we want to survive and reproduce, and the fiction that we desire in the way Freud describes, tells us remarkably little about how we should live.  Indeed, it tends to ironize prescription (when it doesn't render it cynical). And yet, of course, Darwin and Freud furtively prescribe in their writing through what they praise.  Their morality resides in their celebrations, as much  as in their dismay: where they find beauty is where they find happiness... [pg 22]
All along, some people have looked to animals, for their differences and for any commonality with humankind, to try and make sense of the world and of what it is to be human.  "...it is by comparing ourselves with other 'sentient beings' that we can find the proper place for our experience. [pg 22]

The word 'sublime' has been used alot in the texts we've been reading since Christmas, those from the 1600s on.  I didn't have a complete sense of what the authors meant when they used it - usually to describe Nature.  Phillips provides the best explanation I've read.
the experience of the sublime was essentially that which was beyond the making of sense: it was about what overawed us.  Whatever was in excess of a person's capacity for representation - whatever threatened our belief in our languages - was sublime... [pg 24]
 Phillips writes about Freud's 1916 paper 'On Transience' which Professor Zaslove sent us before his lecture on Freud.  I was fully in Freud's camp on this, that it is the transience of things that give them if not all their value, at least increased value.  In Saturday's discussion about Frankenstein, we were talking about his desire to solve life and death, to figure out how to prevent death - and I began to think about what life would be like if we were immortal.  I can't see how we would enjoy anything.  If we had eternity to do, try, experience anything and everything we could think of, what would be the point of any of it, what would be the joy or the excitement of any of it.  Freud intimated "there were two kinds of people: those who can enjoy desiring and those who need satisfaction."

I see this duality of perspective in my work.  We have to deal with death and loss of pets - and I've had to go through this personally with my own pets as well as with family members and their pets, and countless times with clients.  There are some people who in the midst of grief when they lose a pet say that they don't know if they will ever get another pet as it's too hard.  For myself, I can't think that way.  I'm very cognizant of the arc of having a pet and that they will get sick, and they will eventually die - I deal with this every single shift I work - but I can't let that overshadow all else.  I can't think about having a pet, enjoy taking them for a walk or curling up with a purring contented cat, and in the midst of that let myself be oppressed with thoughts that some day they will die and I will be sad.  That day will come and I will be sad - excruciatingly sad - but that is the reality.  I have no desire to avoid it by opting out.
The individual person, like the species of which she is a member, is going nowhere discernible (or predictable), and nowhere in particular. But this is not so much a cause of grief as an invitation to go on inventing the future.  As Darwin and Freud discover more and more about the powers of the past - about how the present is continually being rushed by the past - they also realize one simple fact: that the past influences everything and dictates nothing. [pg 29]
This last phrase, to me, is all you ever would need to know to be a counsellor or psychoanalyst. Yes - you will be affected by what has happened to you in your past BUT you are not bound by it, it does not define you, it dictates NOTHING.

For Darwin it was a simple matter of biological imperatives - survive and reproduce.  For Freud there was the complicating factor of man's desire for happiness - and "their unhappiness shows that they are divided against themselves." [pg 30]
Once happiness matters - and happiness entails the pleasures of justice as inextricable from the pleasures of sexual satisfaction; the possibilities of kindness made sufficiently compatible with a sense of aliveness - so-called biological functions become moral questions. [pg 31]
In my work for Veterinarians Without Borders (not to say that I don't think about this at home in Canada as well) I end up thinking alot about humans, animals and the environment, the "One World" concept we are [finally?] starting to accept.  Darwin wrote "I can see no limit to the amount of change, to the beauty and infinite complexity of the co-adaptations between all organic beings, one with another and with their physical conditions of life..." 4th Chapter.  Phillips goes on to write: "Beauty and complexity are self-evidently good, and they can be found now in the co-adaptation of the ecological system." [pg 38]  "Nature is astonishingly prolific, but it is a prodigal process going nowhere special, sponsored by destruction and suffering." [pg 40]

Phillips looks to a particular aspects of each man's work to say something about life.  For Darwin, it was his work on the lowly earthworm.  For Freud, it is the reasoning behind his hatred about biographers.  They were men grappling with the state of knowledge in the 19th century.
In their writings we see religious traditions and sensibilities struggling to transform themselves into secular, scientifically informed ways of life. pg 116
He asks some tough questions in his epilogue. "Since a natural world is a world of continuous change and therefore continuous loss, how and why does loss matter?"  pg 117  He writes about their discoveries leading them to a secularized world, a world that no longer needs, that no longer can use, a god to give it meaning; and states "The risk was that life could be seen as an enormous waste; the pain of existence would not only be without justification, it could be without compensation. "  pg 117

There was so much I liked about this book and this author.  Who could resist an author who would write, I assume non-ironically, "given the conventional iconography of worms"? [pg 41]  One analogy I didn't agree with however was when Phillips compared Darwin's "side attack" on the status quo, through his observations about the role and importance of the common earthworm, with "middle-class fears of unionizing".  Philips suggests Darwin was intimating [pg 59] that "there may be parallels and analogies in the social hierarchy; that those at the bottom can do perfectly well what those at the top claim for themselves." While this may have held some truth 100 years ago, in 2013, the middle-class assuredly includes unionized workers, or said another way, you won't find many unionized workers in the ranks of the poor.  Said yet another way, the middle-class are not at the top, and the unionized worker is by no means at the bottom of any societal hierarchy.  If anything this hierarchy, in the 21st century, remains more gender-based, not worker's class-based.

In the section on Freud, with his odd fear of biographers, Phillips writes
It is not merely that we might be endangered by people's assumed knowledge about us, or our assumed knowledge about them - as in racist or sexist fantasy - but that it is misleading to assume it is knowledge that we want or that we have of people, any more than it is knowledge that we get from listening to music.  pg 74
 Phillips expounds a bit upon Freud's theory of a death wish, something I've never read up on.  He says that our life story:
this cosmic death story is in two acts. First, at no definable moment, and by no describable agent or process, 'The attributes of life were at some time evoked in inanimate matter by the action of a force of whose nature we can form no conception.' [...] And then for equally mysterious reasons ... the next thing happened...  'For a long time, perhaps,' he writes, 'living substance was thus being constantly created afresh and easily dying, till decisive external influences altered in such a way as to oblige the still surviving substance to diverge ever more widely from its original course of life and to make ever more complicated detours before reaching its aim of death.' pg 79

Freud believed that we intellectually wish to live but that we instinctively wish to die, but to die our own way.  Phillips asks "Indeed, what is narrative about if it is not about objects of desire and the detours and obstacles and dangers entailed in their acquisition?" pg 83
...it is as if there are two kinds of life stories going on inside us.  From the point of view of the death instinct - that Freud is inclined to regard as the omniscient narrator - my life is a story about dying in my own fashion.  From the point of view of the life instinct, of Eros, more life is being sought and sustained.  pg 84
 "To be or not to be, that is the question"  Shakespeare, yet again, blazed a path we are still following.
'Instincts and their transformations are at the limit of what is discernible by psychoanalysis.' [pg 91]
Phillips writes that for Freud biographies were 'spurious and misleading' accounts of a life whereas psychoanalysis shows that a person's account of their own life is what should be relied on.  I don't know that I would agree at all, given the vagaries and unreliability of memory not to mention the impact of perspective.  I don't think there is any true or complete summary of a life - even if, as in these times of recording every moment and posting it online, an entire life were recorded and played back.
Lives dominated by impossible ideals - complete honesty, absolute knowledge, perfect happiness, eternal love - are lives experienced as continuous failure. pg 115
Phillips says that Darwin and Freud "press us to think of our lives as more miraculous than our deaths; our death is inevitable, but our conception is not."  pg 128

Habit, like bad science (or prejudice) creates an illusion of predictability; it keeps things the same by turning a blind eye to difference.  Darwin, Notebook 1839
This really resonates with me as I've always been someone very comfortable in habit and often made uneasy by the prospect of change.  Freud added to Darwin's insights about the constant state of change and adaptation (and co-adaptation) by bringing humankind's internal life into the mix, along with the external world, saying we also have to adapt to the internal world of desires, memory, repressions etc. Thinking of change as the normal state of affairs, not just something that occurs but as the main truth of life, as the most important factor in our lives and as the one we need to accept if not embrace, is an exciting way to think about things.

Tuesday, October 9, 2012

Love is a Stranger by Rumi

Rumi, Live Is a Stranger, Transl. by Kabir Helminski, Shambhala Publications, Boston & London 2000



Rumi was also a 13th century writer (30 September 1207 – 17 December 1273).  He was a Sufi mystic, born in Persia but in what is now Tajikistan, Afganistan.


I’d read a few of Rumi’s poems before but didn’t know anything about him.  Like everything else I’m reading this term, there is so much more I want to know about that time period: what was going on everywhere else at the time, more about sufiism, more about Persia and Afganistan at the time, more about Islam.  Rumi’s poetry reminded me of Sappho – maybe because both wrote so passionately about love and the beloved.  It’s hard for me to analyze and dissect these poems – their strength for me lies in the emotions I feel when reading them, in the power of the words - and so I want to save certain pieces I loved, so I can come back and savour them later.  I can see this being a book I’ll want to come back to and read in the future.

Rumi speaks often of love as being as a unifying force, of two souls combining. 
In I AM NOT (on page 56) he says:
I have put duality away
And seen the two worlds as one.

THE RUINS OF MY HEART (page 49)
[…]
My soul spills into yours and is blended
Because my soul has absorbed your fragrance,
I cherish it.

Every drop of blood I spill
informs the earth,
“I merge with my Beloved when I participate in love.”
[…]

He often includes imagery of wine and drunkenness, perhaps to show how love intoxicates the lover, how love infuses you and affects your thoughts, body and reason.  Many of his poems mention his beloved, Shamsi Tabriz.  At the end of  SWEEP THE DUST OFF THE SEA, on page 34

The Sun of Tabriz keeps me
drunk and languishing in this state

THE INNER GARMENT OF LOVE (pg 69)
[…]
Be drunk with love,
for love is all that exists.
Where is intimacy found
If not in the give and take of love.

Love for Rumi seems to be his way through the world, to spirituality, to fulfillment.  It’s not all sweetness & light and angels singing.  Many of his poems mention fire, burning, conflict, suffering, piercing.

DIDN’T I SAY? (Pg 22)
[…]
Didn’t I say, “They will waylay you and make you cold,
I am the fire and your warm desire.”
[…]


EXPANSION AND CONTRACTION (pg 41)
[…]
Those glances of love were arrows,
piercing and killing all reason
[…]
Hundreds of thousands of full moons
Are dedicated to the all night fever of His love
[…]
All perceptions are riding on lame donkeys,
While He is an arrow travelling through space.
[…]

In SONG OF THE REED (pg 50)
[…]
I want a heart torn open with longing
to share the pain of this love.
[…]
It is the fire of love that inspires the flute.
It is the ferment of love that completes the wine.
[…]

THE INNER GARMENT OF LOVE (pg 69)
[…]
If they ask what Love is,
Say: the sacrifice of will.
If you have not left your will behind,
You have no will at all.
[…]
Between the mirror and the heart
Is this single difference:
The heart conceals secrets,
While the mirror does not.

Rumi contrasts love and reason in some of his poems with reason proving the lesser faculty.

THE PULL OF LOVE (pg 31)
 […]
Though reason is learned and has its honours,
It pawned its cap and robe for a cup of love.
[…]

He describes reason as something very black and white, cold, demanding - not as a quality that brings purpose, depth and joy to life.

LOVE IS RECKLESS (pg 53)
Love is reckless; not reason.
Reason seeks a profit.
Love comes on strong, consuming herself, unabashed.

Yet, in the midst of suffering,
Love proceeds like a millstone
Hard surfaced and straightforward.

Having died to self-interest,
She risks everything and asks for nothing.
Love gambles away every gift God bestows.
[…]
Religion seeks grace and favour,
But those who gamble these away are God’s favourites,
For they neither put God to the test
Nor knock at the door of gain and loss.

LOVE IS A STRANGER (pg 18)
[…]
Reason, do not envy my mouth.
[…]
 whether you have raised a flag or a pen,
the night is gone and day has arrived,
and the sleeper shall see what he has dreamed.

He seems to suggest that reason tries to control love, to control the body and the person.  I’m not sure where Rumi thinks reason lives.  One of his line talks about covering “my reason, my head and my feet” suggesting Rumi doesn’t associate reason with the brain, certainly not with the heart as Mencius did.

WHAT A MAN CAN SAY (pg 28)
In the name of friendship
Don’t repeat to my Beloved
All that I said last night,
Out of my mind;
But if, by God, she hears it,
She’ll understand what a man can say
In the dark, loud or quiet, rough or soft,
When reason is not at home.
[…]

THE HOUSE OF LOVE (pg 67)
[…]
But you build up thought
like a massive wooden door.
Set fire to the wood.
Silence the noise of the heart.
Hold your harmful tongue.


While Rumi seems to fully support Love, this doesn’t apply to all passions (greed, envy etc).

EXPANSION AND CONTRACTION (pg 42)
[…]
If night never came, people would waste themselves
Pursuing all that they desire.
They would give their own bodies to be consumed
For the sake of their desires and greed,
But night appears, a treasure of Mercy,
To save them from desires for a short while.
[…]

When it comes to love though, moderation does not seem to be what Rumi recommends.

EMPTY THE GLASS OF YOUR DESIRE (pg 74)
Join yourself to friends
And know the joy of the soul.
Enter the neighbourhood of ruin
With those who drink to the dregs.

Empty the glass of your desire
So that you won’t be disgraced.
Stop looking for something out there
And begin seeing within.
[…]
When the earth is this wide,
Why are you asleep in a prison?
Think of nothing but the source of thought.
Feed the soul; let the body fast.

Love is not without its suffering but for Rumi even this has purpose. Love and spirituality are joined together in Rumi’s poetry.  For Rumi, Love seems to be transcendent and his words make you feel that even if it hurts and changes and doesn’t give you a “fairytale” ending, Love is a path worth pursuing because of its transcendent power:

THE GUEST HOUSE (pg 44)
[…]
Whatever sorrow takes away or causes the heart to shed,
it puts something better in its place –
especially for one who is certain
that sorrow is the servant of the intuitive.
[…]

WHEN A MAN AND WOMAN BECOME ONE (pg 55)
[…]
The garden of love is green without limit
and yields many fruits other than sorrow or joy.

TO TAKE A STEP WITHOUT FEET (pg 59)
This is love: to fly towards  a secret sky,
To cause a hundred veils to fall each moment.
[…]

LOVE IS A STRANGER (pg 18)
[…]
Love is a stranger with a strange language
[…]

ON THE DEATHBED (pg 23)
[…]
On this path, Love is the emerald,
the beautiful green that wards off dragons.
 […]

A WORLD WITH NO BOUNDARIES (pg 61)
With every breath the sound
Of love surrounds us,
And we are bound for the depths
Of space, without distraction.

We’ve been in orbit before
And know the angels there.
Let’s go there again, Master,
For that is our land.
[…]
out beyond duality
we have a home, and it is Majesty
[…]


These following lines don’t really demonstrate anything related to reason or passion but they are just phrases that I liked and wanted to remember.

ELEGY FOR SANA’I (pg 68)
[…]
he valued the whole world at a single barleycorn.
[…]


WORDS OF ALI WHEN HE REFUSED TO KILL AN OPPONENT WHO SPAT IN HIS FACE (pg 82)
[…]
I am not chaff but a mountain of patience.
[…]

EXPANSION AND CONTRACTION (pg 43)
[…] the eyes of the wise see to the end […]

Friday, September 28, 2012

LUCRETIUS "The Nature of Things"




LUCRETIUS  The Nature of Things  Transl. A.E. Stallings; Penguin Classics, 2007

I had no idea that before 60 BC, Greek and Roman intellectuals had figured out that everything was made out of small, indivisible particles (atomos); that “many things have common elements, as words share letters” (Book I, 197-8).  I had never heard of Epicurus, on whose philosophy Lucretius based his 7000 line poem.  Epicurus lived in the 3rd and 4th centuries B.C.E. but his theories came after earlier philosophers, most notably Democritus in the 5th century B.C.E.  I find it amazing that 2500 years ago, philosophers had already come up with the concept of infinitesimally small indivisible particles, of matter and void, making up everything we see around us.

Lucretius wrote his work as a poem.  He writes in Book I 931ff 
“[…] I teach great truths, and set out to unknot the mind from tight strictures of religion, and since I write of so darkling a subject in a poetry so bright […] I want to coat this physic in rich song, to kiss it, as it were, with the sweet honey of the Muse. […]”. 
I’m impressed by his scholarship but I’m also very impressed by the translator, A.E. Stallings who translated the Latin into English rhyme, heptameter to be exact.  She calls them “fourteeners” saying that their “old-fashioned rhythm and ring will get across something of the archaic flavor of Lucretius’ Latin”.  There are a few times that she has used anachronistic modern phrases but overall being able to read it as poetry seems to preserve some of the original feel of the words.

There are some beautiful turns of phrases (Book I, 143-144)
As I seek the right words and the right poetry to light
Brilliant lanterns for your mind […]

Lucretius’ first principle is that “nothing can be made from nothing”, certainly not by any supernatural power.  Next he says that “Nature does not render anything to naught” meaning that everything eventually breaks back down to its basic elements, things don’t disappear.  Everything is made of atoms “those seeds that abide forever”, the “elemental particles”.  He theorizes that “elements are of eternal stuff linked with bonds of different strengths” – pretty amazing stuff for the pre-electron microscope age.  He explains how  we know there are these particles even though we can’t see them.  These early thinkers also surmised that “there’s also emptiness in things”, that even in hard things like iron or stone, there are empty spaces, that these things are not “one solid mass”.  The universe consists of only 2 things: matter and void. Lucretius argues for the indivisibility of atoms by saying (Book I, 616-620)
[…] since after all
Half of a half of anything can still again be cut
In two, and on and on ad infinitum.  And then what
Will be the difference between the tiniest speck of matter
And all the universe? […]

In Book II (The Dance of Atoms), he writes that “all bodies of matter are in motion" and compares this to dust motes dancing in a slant of sunlight: the random ceaseless motion as well as how this usually occurs below the abilities of our senses to detect.  He also brings in the concept of the “swerve”, the slight variability that allows collisions to occur between atoms and therefore introduces some randomness into the universe that “shatters the laws of fate” (Book II, 254). 

In support of reason, in Book III (Mortality and the Soul), Lucretius writes that he doesn’t think there is any flaw in each human that reason can’t correct (319-322)
But one thing I am certain of, so weak is any trace
Of inborn nature past the power of reason to erase,
That there is nothing fundamentally at odds
With living out our lives so they are worthy of the gods.

 A hopeful and reassuring viewpoint.

I am also impressed by the powers of observation and deduction evident in this work.  Lucretius subscribed to the belief that the way to understand the universe is to observe the natural world around us and then use logic to draw deductions from these observations.  This poem contains many descriptions of natural phenomena with expositions of what we can and can’t deduce from these observations.  Lucretius’ Epicurean viewpoint on religion and the gods seems very brave and revolutionary for the time (or even within the last 200 years).  Early on, in Book I (Matter and Void), he writes (83-84):
[…] on the contrary, it is Religion breeds
Wickedness and that has given rise to wrongful deeds

He then describes Agaememnon’s sacrifice of his daughter Iphigenia, to persuade the gods to send
[…] fair and favourable winds to sail the fleet along! –
So potent was Religion in persuading to do wrong

An observation that holds true today where mobs of people are rioting and killing in Libya and the Middle East in the name of the prophet because they feel his name was slighted by some amateur American film-makers.  Where is the logic or justice in this but it is all done in the name of Religion.

The evocations of various phenomena of the time were likewise fascinating:
  • garments dyed glowing purple from the murex of the Thessalian tide;
  • spikenard bloom;
  • Hyrcanian hounds;
  • Molossian mastiffs;
  • Traitor’s [Tarpeian]Rock;
  • overpowering lad’s love [southernwood];
  • an ancient Roman physician coating the lip of a goblet with honey to disguise the bitter taste of the wormwood medicine from his patient;
  • mountains being “two thousand arrow-shots away” or “five hundred javelin-casts”;
  • nymphs and goat-footed satyrs;
  • a snake that, touched with human spit, will die;
  • hellebore a poison for humans but “which makes goats and quail grow fat and sleek”;
  • the “snow-white goose, Protector of the Roman Citadel”;
  • a belief that the sight of a rooster was painful to a lion’s eyes;
  • Babylonian coverlets; Babylonian perfumes; shoes from Sicyon; Alindan silks;
  • the currents of the Black Sea uniformly gliding in one direction;  
  • 'snake-handed elephants […] trained by Carthaginians to bear the wounds of wars’;
  • Etesian squalls. 

The descriptions of phenomenae that I enjoyed the most were the Avernian lakes, where Lucretius  describes all the places where bizzare things have happened: birds falling dead out of the sky, “wing-footed stags enticing […] serpents from their holes” with their breath; trees whose shade kills people; wells of sweet water in the middle of the ocean etc.

There are references to the Great Flood (the notes refer the reader to Ovid’s Metamorphoses” and Deucalion- the Greek Noah - and his wife Pyrrha), an interesting similarity with Genesis.
So many of these concepts broached in the centuries B.C.E. were on the right track.  In Book V, Lucretius talks about a legend that once “Water lorded it over land”, about genes (Lucretius writes of generative seeds and like breeding like).  When trying to explain the movement of the stars he doesn’t have one single proveable theory and therefore suggests a few, one of which is that the heavens are a great sphere with a flow of air spinning  “the sphere in the direction that the stars are moving in”.  Right idea, wrong sphere.  His writing describes the principle that the speed of light is faster than the speed of sound; noting that you see a distant woodsman strike a massive tree with a double-bladed axe before you hear the sound of the axe hitting the tree.  He is off-base however on how lightening is formed, with his theory that clouds contain “a multitude of seeds of fire”.

He is wrong on several theories or conclusions.  He mentions in Book I (1052-1082) the concept that the Sun might be the centre of the universe with people on the other side of the earth who
when they behold the sun, we see the stars of night.  And that the seasons of the heavens come to us by turns, And when it’s night for one, then for the other daylight burns. […] How can there be a centre to to what’s infinitely vast? And even if there were, then why should anything stand fast? Why shouldn’t it be driven far away instead. […]
Nor is there any spot where bodies lose the force of weight
So they can stand still in the void.

However he concludes that the sun and moon are exactly the same size they appear because their outline is “sharp and clear”.  His description of the “dawn of the world” in Book V (Cosmos and Civilization) reminds me of the Garden of Eden in Genesis: greenery, the creation of all the animals and birds, the Earth giving sustenance and warmth, “but the dawn-time of the world did not bring forth harsh cold and snow, nor too much heat nor mighty winds that violently blow”.  There was the same idea of an easier time, with less suffering that we saw in Genesis.  For Lucretius this dawn-time changed when Mother Earth grew tired “like a woman wasted with long years”.  He talks about the Earth bearing food “more generously” in her prime.  In Book I he writes (1150) “Even now the world is past its prime”.  I wonder what Lucretius would think about the world today.

While Lucretius describes everything as being made of atoms in different configurations he didn’t understand (how could he!) what binds atoms together.  The Democritus/Epicurus atomic theory involved hooks and barbs rather than electronic bonds between positively and negatively charged ions.  The ancients wrote of smooth and rough atoms to explain the different properties: sound vs light, iron vs wood, heat vs water etc.  Still, I find it awe-inspiring that they believed that air, water, iron, flesh, plants etc were all made of the same basic components, just assembled in different configurations with different amounts of void between the atoms and some finite variety of atoms.

Lucretius also speaks of there being many “freaks” in the early years including “Hermaphrodites partaking of both sexes” which reminded me of Aristophanes story in Plato’s “Symposium”  where he explains love as being connected to proto-mankind being 3 types of people: man-man, woman-woman and man-woman, and each type was split in half by the gods with love being their eternal search for their missing half.

Lucretius describes some of the advances mankind had achieved, moving from a hunter-gatherer society with people wearing animal skins to a pastoral society wearing woven cloth, living indoors safe from savage beasts; but instead of being at risk from accidental poisonings due to lack of knowledge, and dying of infection due to lack of medical knowledge, the more civilized man now dies of deliberate poisonings or wounds suffered due to more sophisticated warfare and weapons.  He speaks of men dying from over-indulgence rather than starvation.  He describes the development of societal contracts (Book V, 1018-1023):
Then neighbours began to form the bonds of friendship,
With a will
Neither to be harmed themselves, nor to do another ill,
The safety of the babes and womenfolk in one another’s trust,
And indicated by gesturing and grunting it was just
For everyone to have mercy on the weak.

In Book III (Mortality and the Soul), Lucretius writes (54-55)
 […] To truly take the measure of a man,
You must observe him in the midst of trial and tribulation

He speaks about Avarice, blind Ambition, envy and greed and how mankind’s fear of death creates a lot of suffering.  He didn’t think that people should fear death as once we are gone, that’s it, we cease to exist (though our elemental particles remain in the universe) and so there is nothing to worry about as we won’t be there TO worry.


Book III, 1018-1023
[…] the Conscience fears for its misdeeds, and IT applies
Goads and floggings to ITSELF, neither does it surmise,
Meanwhile, that there can be, to all its sufferings, an end,
Nor, at length, a final limit to its punishment,
So it dreads these same oppressions will grow weightier with death,
Until, at last, the life of fools becomes a Hell on Earth.

Lucretius has good advice on how to be happy (Book V, 1117-1119):
But if you’d steer your life by a philosophy that’s true,
The way to be the wealthiest of men is to eschew
High living, and be contented in the mind […]

(Book V, 1131-1136)
Let others wear themselves out all for nothing, sweating blood,
Battling their way along ambition’s narrow road
Because their wisdom smacks of others’ lips, and they pursue
Things that they only know second-hand, rather than through
Their own senses […]

And writes about always wanting more (Book V, 1412-1415)
For whatever is at hand, if we have never known before
Anything finer, it gives us chief delight and reigns supreme.
That is, till something better comes along in our esteem
And ruins the earlier thing that’s now old-fashioned to our mind.

(Book V, 1430-1435)
Therefore the human race is ever laboring in vain,
And fretting the years away in bootless worries. For it’s plain
Man doesn’t realize that even having has its measure;
There’s a point beyond which nothing can increase our real pleasure.
And this is what has by degrees dragged Life so far from shore,
And stirred up from the very depths the tidal waves of War.


His recipe for happiness is simple, Book II 18-22
[…]All your nature yelps for is a body free from pain,
And, to enjoy pleasure, a mind removed from fear and care[…]
And so we see the body’s needs are altogether spare –
Only the bare minimum to keep suffering at bay
Yet which can furnish pleasures for us in a wide array.

He also debunks religion's role in all of this (Book V, 1184-1187)
Moreover, men observed the orderly movements of the heavens,
And beheld the cycling of the year with its returning seasons,
But could not fathom how these came about, and lacking reasons,
Found an escape by handing these things over to the gods
[…]


Lucretius does not have a very high opinion of women.  When he is writing about the development of looms, weaving and spinning he writes (Book V, 1353-1355)
[…] Naturally, at the start
Men, not women, spun the wool – for men in every art
Excel the weaker sex in cleverness by far […]

He seems to have a higher opinion of dogs (Book VI, 1221-1222)
 […] But the clan
Of Dogs was hardest hit, the true and steadfast friend of Man

Given my science background and over 30 years of thinking scientifically, I was very drawn to Lucretius' reasoning.  It seemed a big jump in logic from the writings we've read so far (Genesis, Bhagavad Gita, Plato's Phaedrus, Plato's Symposium) that try to explain the world around us and our purpose but as Lucretius himself said (Book I, 1117):
“One truth illuminate another, as light kindles light”

It's all a progression from there to here.

Tuesday, September 11, 2012

Discussion of the Bhagavad Gita and of Genesis



One of the interesting facets of this course already is how each text builds on the other texts we have read or are reading.  This of course is one of the main reasons this master's program interested me but it’s also making me want to read so much more: either by the same authors or their contemporaries, or to read about what was going on in the world at the time – and I don’t have time to do this!

Today we spoke about Genesis (the 1st book of the Old Testament) and about the Bhagavad Gita, an ancient Sanskrit text that was part of the Upanishads (records of conversations between teachers and students about the nature of reality).

We were told that there are some themes that will recur through many of the texts we’ll be reading.
  • Dualism – (male/female, black/white) - is this limiting or simplifying?
  • Anthropocentrism – humans and the natural world
  •  Mutuality – opposite of dualism
There were some similarities in both texts.  Both evolved over many many years as oral texts before being written down (in about 1250 BCE for Genesis and in about 150 BCE for the Gita).  There was some discussion about how these texts would have changed many times during the oral period but then would have become fixed once they were written down.  During our discussion of Plato's Phaedrus, we had learned how Socrates did not want to write any of his ideas down because then they would become fixed, and for him the value was in discussing ideas and then rethinking them, having them continually evolve.

Both texts are smaller parts of larger works: Genesis is the 1st book of the Old Testament which in turn is part of the Bible; the Gita is part of the Mahabharata epic which in turn was part of the Upanishads.  Both texts try to explain man’s role in the natural world and to provide some hope of a better world, achievable if certain rules or paths are followed, though the Gita seems to be a more coherent work than Genesis.

In discussing both texts, the class spoke about how the Gita came out of a pantheistic viewpoint whereas in Genesis there was only one God, something very unusual in religions at the time.  The Gita conceived of the divine being the universe.  The Gita was very repetitive, with much of the same information or teachings being mentioned over and over again.  Part of this may be because it was originally an oral text and a teaching tool, and the repetition would help with learning and memorization.  Some of it may also be connected to the fact, as Surinder mentioned, that Eastern thought is not linear but is more circular.  Things are repeated but each time you should develop a deeper understanding – like peeling away the outer layers to get to the deeper core.

In contrast Genesis doesn’t really seem to have a master structure or plan.  It seems to be a recounting of some historical events, and occasionally events are used to provide guidance on how to act (or how not to act) but it is not very cohesive and does not seem to be formally organized the way the Gita is.

In the Gita, there is no mention of society, it’s all about the individual whereas Genesis is about lineage, and the cities and tribes founded by various descendants of Adam.  There is less focus on the individual and more focus on the family unit and by extension, eventually, society.  The main message in Genesis is to worship the one God, be loyal to the one God - as well as a message of healthy respect and fear of God.

We had a brief discussion about the theory of the bicameral mind: that the mind in ancient peoples (over 3000 years ago) was divided between the “speaking” mind and the “listening and obeying” mind.  Some propose that this would explain the importance and the quotidian nature of communications between mankind and gods – and the vividness of the accounts of these interactions.

We discussed whether Genesis is an historical account, a sacred text or a fable.  My perception is that it is an attempt at a historical text (though much altered by the centuries of oral transmission) as well as a text to explain the world and guide readers.  The book begins with much anger and punishment as mankind is banished from paradise, destroyed in a great flood, condemned to a life of hard labour and pain, and condemned to confusion and misunderstanding between various peoples.  I hadn’t picked up on the change from this to a religion more about love and forgiveness which occurs by the end of Genesis, being so distracted by the sacrifices, slaughter, famines & plagues, incest, rape, betrayal etc.  But in fact, this 1st book ends with Joseph forgiving his brothers and alleviating their suffering during the famine.  Genesis suggests that suffering is mankind’s lot in life but if we worship God and follow his rules, he will take care of us.  

There was much passion in Genesis, mostly negative passions: anger, jealousy, fear.  The Gita was more about ridding oneself of passion.  It was more difficult to find examples of reason in Genesis.  It seemed to be more a case of cause and effect: God dictating and mankind either obeying and surviving, or disobeying and being punished.  Towards the end of the book though, reason does seem to emerge. God seems to take a step backwards from direct involvement in mankind’s decisions and actions and we see Joseph interpreting the Pharoah’s dream and then acting in a thoughtful and reasonable manner, a compassionate and forgiving manner, and explaining his actions and the reasons for them.

The Gita contained much ‘reason’ with the entire text revolving on questions about how to live life and how to act, and then a well-reasoned, structured answer about the various ways one can live one’s life with the ultimate purpose being to rid oneself of desire, of clinging to the consequences of actions, and thus eventually achieving Nirvana.  

In both texts there is emphasis on following a circumscribed path to a better existence, with no support being given to straying from the common path or for aspiring anything different.

Imagination è Desire è Suffering

I found both texts very interesting and will continue to think about what they had to impart but I'm still looking for different answers, as a life without imagination is not one I wish to contemplate.